dan Beu: Its a gay clown car
rodimo dubb: Fiat owns 85% of dodge helped the American automaker to bounce back from
recession, fiat also has to factorys back east in the us that builds both
the 500 and the 4door 500L. So im glad that fiat help us in the u.s.
PlasticShack SpaceJed: I bet it don't cost $4000 dollars to make one of these cars , and the
French will make money buy American made cars folks Unless France sales
Fiat to the United States and jobs for people in USA keep your little cars.
viralengine908: well, it depends on region of manufacture. the puntos in europe that i
drove in were well built, with clean lines and acceptable panel gaps, but
the one I bought back in india is made in a different factory, and
definitely looks like it's definitely been built to a price.
jack lewis: If its any help i have both the fiat 500 and abarth 500, there both fours
years old and have never had any major mechanical problems whatsoever
(touch wood) neither do i know of anyone else who has either. The F500 in
particular is very simple, so theirs less to go wrong.
orangedac: ..and this works for the Fiat 500 ? I know Civics are modded (modified)
that way usually by tapping into the CAN diagnostic network on the
automobile and playing around with settings. But I did not know that kind
of mod was also do-able on a Fiat ! I'm thinking the Fiat 500 Turbo (not
Abarth but Turbo model which is one step lower) probably has this mod. In
other words, its the same car as the regular Fiat 500 but with these
software tweaks. What do you think ?
uncoolkid2: you realize the same company makes Maserati and Ferrari right?
Mathieu Levac: Wrong, check on the forums. A chip and an Intake =200 Crank HP.
hawkermustang: TOO MUCH MONIES!
Motormouth Canada: Not true. The Turbo model here is less than a $1000 different than the US.
In fact, the car is on sale in Canada right now and it is actually cheaper.
uncoolkid2: it is 19500 in America with all that plus nav is around 22000
jack lewis: Ok, fair point on the Garret turbo, i was not aware of that. I based my
thoughts on it having IHI turbo which is the smaller one. It seems like
overkill to give it a turbo that big if it has such modest performance
stats. Lets just agree a 500T with a chip on its own could produce a nice
amount of power but not quite 200.
Mathieu Levac: Well, when you think about it. It costs less to buy a bunch of the same
thing, and just software reduce the power then buy a bunch of different
parts and still have to tune it differently. PC video cards have been doing
it for years. Reducing clockspeed and other such variables. Costs them
nothing extra to do it this way.
Motormouth Canada: Reliability is hard to judge on a new car, it takes time to find these
things out. There are many sources of information like JD Power reports
etc. This car is built in the old PT Cruiser factory, which had very good
reliability towards the end of its run. The reality is that my job is to
point out the features of the car, reliability is too hard to predict on a
stephen rocillo: found one of these for 300 bucks man i am lucky.
supercooled: You get more utility, more power and cheaper in a hatchback Accent. Sure
it's not 'Italian' or cute, but if money is an issue, there are so many
better choices for the price range. For $25k, the Nissan Juke Nismo can be
had. Rockford Fosgate system, push-button start, alcantera seating, 197hp
turbo i4 1.6litre. Great on fuel and would give the Cooper S and Abarth a
serious run for its money.
Capitancanguro1: This car is reliable,it comes with 5 years warranty.
Alessio S: it isn't underpowered at all, the drivetrain is much more efficient than
the draditional american 3 speed automatic and it weights about 1,1 metric
tonne. the torque is directly present thanks to the multi air tecnology
(without butterfly valve in the intake) but all sayd, not a car for a man,
it doesn't fit us propper. Prefer the alfa 159
Mathieu Levac: No problems, got it in may so no winters with it yet. Yes i have THIS exact
model, in silver so yes turbo. Downsides, im 6'3" so i dont fit in a car
equiped with a sun roof, so i didnt get one. An other downside for me
anyways because of my height, is the non telescopic steering wheel, i feel
like i have to reach too much to grab it with one hand. An other thing, the
drivers seat goes up and down, but the passanger's doesnt, so if that
person is tall, his head will be in the roof liner.
jack lewis: Doubt you'd get 200hp with a 'little chip'. even my chipped Abarth isnt
getting that much. I dont think that turbo is even capable of 200hp, if you
want the magic 200 you'd need to upgrade to a garret 1446 turbo. remap that
engine and you could get around 165 - 170.
Mathieu Levac: No they didnt, but you get used to it. Its not necessarily that its high,
its that it doesnt move at the bottom then snaps when you let it got an
inch. It actually curves instead of going in an out like on all my other
manual cars. Just to need to get accustom to it thats all.
ormand3000: Yeah and? We supply your freaking country with GASOLINE and an ENTIRE
INDUSTRY (Oil Frak/Oil Shale) and THIS is the attitude we get repaid back
with? 2 faced motherfreakers!
Alessio S: it takes 1 lil chip reprogramming and you have 200 HP. and it is a stupid
statement you do, in fact the porsche was underpowered for a porsche with
other modifications you can go even further.. but not recommanded for a
dayly use car
trumpet12345: Because that is a good comparison.
jack lewis: But there is no evidence of a 500T producing 200HP using a chip. Which was
the point i was making.
N.E.U.R.O.OFFICIAL: does it really go in water?
Jay Smith: Song ?
RobotShlomo: For a car this size, how much power do you expect, or even need? That's
right, it's 2013, and the old idea of Americans feeling insulted at the
prospect of driving a car like this should be history by now.
Mathieu Levac: it's a 1.4..... Turbo doesnt always = MAD POWER. it drives fine and has
plenty of pep at low RPM. Cant say that for any other N/A 1.4-1.6L engine...
BulldozerJack: Why is that? It's a very european car, perfect for the city. You don't
prove your manliness by driving a pickup truck.
MegaCrazyone123: the usa abarth has been dynoed at 155whp and 175 WT and gm has a recall to
up the car to 22psi and 180bhp
jack lewis: Well for a start the original point was that a chip could take it to 200HP,
an intake wasn't mentioned and secondly i am on the forums, im member of
the Abarth owners club. My chipped Abarth produces around 165-170. Even the
Novitec website and TMC websites dont claim there tuning boxes/ chips could
verrywellhung: Gawd. This guy is such a motormouth.
Mathieu Levac: Well, ive seen dyno charts... and idk about Novitec, but the 3 companies
ive heard around here (North America) are TMC, RoadRaceMotorsport and MM.
Btw, by abarth, you mean North American Abarth OR Europe Abarth?
orangedac: Thanks for the info. This car sounds perfect for me. I'm only 5"4. I don't
sit comfortably in larger cars. My head does not rest comfortably on the
head rest unless I stretch my neck. I have to adjust the chair to the point
where I'm too close to the steering wheel. My elbows don't reach the arm
rest and its tiring keeping my hands on the wheel all the time For a big
guy, why did you not go for a larger car? In 2014, sub-compact SUVs are
coming out. I might check those out before deciding
MrAestheticcoder: Why would i get a turbocharged for this piece of junk
supersnake1599: ABARTH NOT ABART HOLY freak
JundaComputersGmbH: I would save money and not get any useless options such as Beats Audio,
Heated Leather Seats, or the Alarm. The Beats Audio is expensive, eats
trunk space and I think the normal speakers are just fine. The Heated Seats
is useless, cost $400 and the heating module is extra weight. For the same
$1200 ($400 heated seats, $800 leather seats) I rather buy 2 aftermarket
Sparco Racing seats and you can sell the stock fabric seats that came with
the car. Wouldn't that be better ???
orangedac: What would you say are the down sides of this car? Have you had any
problems with it? Does it work well in the winter? Do you have the Turbo
Mathieu Levac: Oh, and here both the 500T and the Abarth have the Garret gt1446 turbo.
Mathieu Levac: Google ABARTH Engine Module Comparison Dyno. Should be the first link.
MelCanuck: Cute car. I like this model much. But i'd also consider the forthcoming
200hp Fiesta ST
Douglas Machado: Nice review
Motormouth Canada: I just double checked the price of the same car in the US and Canada.
Without the navigation unit and freight, the Canadian car seen here cost
$23,750. The same car in the US is $22,850, roughly $700 less expensive in
the US. (navigation does not show up on the US web site, it must be a
dealer install). In actual fact, the US bundles the options together and
the stand alone features, like leather and Beats Audi are cheeper here in
Mario Roussel: I love your reviews Zack, but it would be nice to have more information on
' Built quality' & 'reliability' of the cars you're presenting... I heard
that the Fiat 500 are cheaply made, won't last long, and some car
journalist don't predict an overall good reliability from the car in the
long end. It would be nice to hear about those things during your
reviews... Most peoples these days are looking for something reliable with
Alessio S: the abarth has stiffer roll bars and suspension arms and stronger brakes,
and stronger wheel hubs to accomodate larger wheels and stronger braking
systems. it isn't the regular 500. abt the engine it is a very proven and
tough engine can handle the power (not the garbage TSI volkswagen throuws
in the world) but you 'll lose factory guarantee if you tweek it. it works
on the abarth but must be done by specialist as squadra or novitec,not in
the lokal brewery.
Tod Campbell: DarkClosetOfTheMind says this car is ugly, and I find it to be the most
interesting and best looking cars in the class. This car is not meant to be
a Porche, but it has plenty of pep. I have the standard Pop version at 101
HP, and with a 5 speed manual it performs just fine. The Abath and Turbo
are really fun to drive and given the weight and size of the car performs
wonderfully! The mini is a nice car...however the fiat is a less expensive
option with definite differences in design and per
Mathieu Levac: I own this car in silver, i paid 23k including tax, base model with heated
seats. LOVE IT.
7birchlane: I LOVE MY ABARTH, AND WOULD RECOMMEND FIAT 100%. THIS IS COMING FROM
SOMEONE THAT HAS A 2012 BMW 528, AND A 2013 640I GRAN COUPE....FORZA FIAT!
NellyLowkz Cuhh: Fiat got plenty ideas from Volkswagen....